brown ale is at 1.015-02, forgot to get the og, probably was 1.04. i'm on the fence about secondary for this one, so i'm going to take another gravity 2 days in a row and move it to secondary if it seems done. crap, i'm tempted to just rack it anyway so i can get the ryepa in the fermenter! might try irish moss on the ryepa.
red ale that was bottled on 6/15, first taste: very carbonated! not super flavorful. yeasty smell when the bottle was opened. fair bitter dry aftertaste. not syrupy like i was afraid it would be. had a bit of the chill haze. gave a sip to joe, who said "good", as he does to anything that doesn't suck.